Which are both timed . This form is pretty powerful. The battle between Broly and Gogeta marked how insanely powerful the fusion can be. gogeta looks confused at the no effect his strongest attack does. Gogeta Blue could potentially defeat a full power Beerus. Not bad at all! plus in the PQ Eternal Rivals, if you get the bonus, SSJ4 Gogeta appears before SSGSS in a progresion battle where Goku and Vegeta adopt strong and stronger forms until SSGSS. There's a clear distinction in the level of power that is portrayed there. SSJ4 Gogeta outclasses SSJ4 Vegeta by a ridiculous margin. That's just what I think. SSJ4 Goku is 4000x stronger than SSJ3 Buu Saga Goku and got his ass kicked by Omega Shenron. A common debate. EDIT: Not in the game but in general. - Page 6. The reason why I say SSJ4 is stronger is by scaling with fusions. when no one is looking. My vote would be for SSJ4 Gogeta This is true. And in the movie, Vegeta was the only one to actually land first hits on Beerus (wasn't fighting seriously) and at that point, he was stronger than SSJ3 Goku. 4. They could be on par or even a little stronger than Super Vegito, but Goku made it seem like Beerus was even a league or two above Vegito. *Spoilers Ahead* Arguably, yes. Unless SSj4 Goku and Vegeta, even when "beyond limits," only measure up as very small fractions on BoG's 15-point scale, there's no way for SSj4 Gogeta to be "tens of times" their strength and end up anything … Vegetto Blue from the Black Arc gets STOMPED badly by Beerus. And his fusion is supposed to last 30 minutes but as we have seen they are super saiyan 4 and that drastically cuts the time. For the "canon" numbers, Syn Shenron is 4x as strong as SSJ4 Goku and Omega Shenron is 10x as strong as Syn. SSJ4 Goku is 1000x a super saiyan . Who would win between SSJ4 Gogeta and Beerus. To put it in short, it's been proven SSGSSS or SSB Vegito is stronger by monstrous leagues. In Xenoverse, pairing Gogeta against Beerus will make Beerus say "Hohoho! If we go by feats, Frost wins. The only characters who have been proven to be stronger than Beerus are MUI Goku and Limit Breaker Jiren.. Firstly, I believe the only character in the series who has the closes idea of how strong Beerus really is would be Whis. Casual. MUI Goku is still above Blue Fusions. SSJ3 Gogeta≈SSJ4 Goku Because Vegeta says that the only way to become stronger than Omega Shenron is too fuse and turn SSJ4 For Dragon Ball: Xenoverse on the PlayStation 4, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "So, Gogeta/Vegito is confirmed to be stronger than Beerus?" Base Gogeta>=SSB Goku because base and ssj Gogeta kept up with SSJ Broly. GT has nothing to do with anything, its not even canon. Super Saiyan 4 is a formed obtained from Oozaru. Hmmm, this just reminds me of Frieza honestly. That means no Bluff Kamehamehas from SSJ4 Gogeta nor a portion of own's power used by Beerus (AKA Full power used). I vote for Gogeta. Frost is stronger then base god Goku and base god Goku is far stronger then SSJ4 Gogeta . -The only thing they know about each other is that Beerus is a god of destruction, and that SSJ4 Gogeta is a fusion of 2 saiyans ; And that each might be stronger than anything they've faced before. Casual. So while it's not a concrete number, I think it be fair to say SSJ4 Gogeta is twice as strong as Omega which means he's 80x as strong as SSJ4 Vegeta at the very least. I don't want to hear non canon crap. 1/18/2019. Archived. Let's just take the Movie Beerus and not the Series Beerus. Bias against GT … 10 Things The Saiyan Can Do In Dragon Ball (That The God Of Destruction Can't) Beerus really showed Dragon Ball fans just how much stronger Goku needed to be. BUT pretending the fusion has no limit who would win then? Unfortunately we didn't get to see the extent of Gogetas power. Mar 10, 2016 #11 If we go by feats, Frost wins. Posted by 2 years ago. Cause they made him like million times stronger for whatever Reason? It all depends on how much stronger you think Beerus is than SSJ3 Goku was when they first fought. SSJ4 as a form is stronger, but SSB Goku is stronger than SSJ4 Goku. I would think Super Vegito would be more than 10x stronger than SSJ3 Goku. 39 comments. When fused with Goku, the two formed the composite warrior Gogeta who also appeared as a Super Saiyan 4 for the final battle against Omega Shenron. Secondly, irrespective of whether Broly is stronger than Beerus, his power has been compared to … However, Hypothetical Vegetto Blue (Post Tournament of Power) likely beats Beerus. So with that the ones who surpassed Beerus: obviosuly Jiren/Broly, Vegito/Gogeta (if he appears in the movie), Zamasu, Goku, Cunber. (Stronger Than Beerus And Whis) - Duration: 8:45. Gogeta 'stomped' a character who was maybe stronger than Beerus MUI Goku treated Jiren (Who is for sure stronger than Beerus) like he was nothing. Base Z goku is weaker then Frieza confirmed by Beerus Gogeta Blue is definitely stronger. For all extents and purposes, Super Saiyan 4 is an extension of Super Saiyan 3, albeit with a more animalistic appearance, since it harnesses the powers of the great golden ape into a humanoid form. This gives a 4000x multiplier of ssj3. (Why? ", while Gogeta will say "Maybe I can win against Lord Beerus now." If we go by powerscaling, SSJ4 Gogeta does. I think ssj4 would destroy beerus whit very little effort. XD. No idea, hard to say. SSj4 Gogeta pretty much has to be above Beerus' level, though, considering that the fusion dance is described as making someone "tens of times" stronger than their component parts. If anything I think SSJ4 Gogeta is maybe SSJ God Goku tier at most but that's just IMO. And there wasn't any doubt Jiren was stronger than MZ in 110, or any doubt he's the strongest they had ever fought, but then Whis says "perhaps" he's stronger than GoD level. In Xenoverse, your character who was about as strong as SSG Goku in BoG was able to help SSJ4 Gogeta defeat villainous mode Omega Shernron, Oozaru Baby, and Super #17 at the same time. I'm assuming Beerus is 100x stronger than SSJ3 Goku. Which Super Saiyan Transformation Is Stronger? Clearly SSJ4 Gogeta is well worth Beerus' acknowledgement. Is Goku Stronger Than Beerus? Fused at ssj4 gogeta would be stronger than ssj god. This concept is revisited in Dragon Ball Super and its official tie-in animated film, Broly. Think about it,ssj3 vs beerus lets say hes 1% gt goku is 400x stronger so the ssj3 that fought baby is already 3x stronger then beerus. Since this is all speculation anyway, I'm free to assume. We were told that if Goku and Vegeta fought together at the level they're at now, they may be able to take Beerus. It all depends on how much stronger you think Beerus is than SSJ3 Goku was when they first fought. One of tropes that exists throughout the Dragon Ball mythos, but originally introduced in Dragon Ball Z, is that two fighters can fuse together to form a new, hybrid individual with vastly augmented power and abilities. Close. Who would win between SSJ4 Gogeta and Beerus. I think Jiren is stronger than ssb gogeta. So who do you guys think would win here? Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta, (spoilers) Read at your own risk. Add the multipliers, then gt ssj4 goku is 4000x stronger than dragon Ball z's ultimate super saiyan form which is ssj3 ... SSJ4 Gogeta obliterates Beerus without even having to move a finger. Here are some things he can each do that Beerus can't. So he would still be 250x times a group of 4. No it hasn't been proven Gogeta is stronger than Beerus. And thats just ssj4 goku. ssj4 gogeta uses a big bang kamehameha, sees that beerus is immune to his ki. Either way. ... Beerus vs SSJ4 Gogeta (ビルズ駆逐艦の神 vs スーパーサイヤ人4ゴジータ) - Duration: 2:16. Beerus has brought about a new age for Dragon Ball.Not only is he responsible for the movie that officially continued a series that has been all but dormant for twenty years, but he also noteworthy for bringing back beloved characters, larger than life fights, and an excuse for adults put their hands together and shout "Kamehameha!" A top evolution form of the saiyans. If we go by powerscaling, SSJ4 Gogeta does. But if they did fuse who is to say ssj god goku couldn't last until they unfused considering god goku in gt would be way stronger than god goku in dbz Especially considering gogeta as fusion would run out of time first See where I'm going there's no facts noones knows its maybe Beer is would be somewhere around a fusion of ssj4 Gogeta and Omega Shenron He's definitely the strongest they have ever fought, but only perhaps stronger than GoD level. The reasons being, for one, Goku and Vegeta have gotten significantly stronger throughout the T.O.P, in comparison to the Future Trunks arc. But it is pertinent to my answer. When he fuses with vegeta, Gogeta is essentially a 100x goku ssj4. ... SSJG is about 400x stronger than SSJ3 Goku. Now if we take that into consideration that would then Zamasu he went blow for blow with Vegito can be thought of to be stronger and with the final stages of UI, whether Sign or Mastered, Goku surpassed Beerus. 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